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| The Dando52 Account Monday, May 3, 2010 9:53 pm — Guide posted by Quirvy |
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Dando
The account, Dando52, is not to be mistaken with the actual user, Dando. Dando led a revolution in general, trying to gain the support of levels that are fun to play, as opposed to levels that are difficult to beat and require a large amount of skill. On the old interguild forums, her username was Dando52, but when the transition between sites was made, she changed her username to a simpler, Dando.
The First Appearance of Dando52
When the new Interguild site was first released, the moderators were worried that some poorly regarded users would turn to posing as a veteran user when the new site was released. jellsprout took note of this, and chose to play a little prank on the staff members. On December 13th 2009, he created an account called Dando52. Mods were outraged by this, and demanded to know who it was. Shortly after, jellsprout casually confessed to being its creator, and posted the password to it on the staff forum in case any staff members wanted to use it as a testing account. The account was later deleted by Livio, alongside with other fake accounts that had accumulated.
The Second Appearance
The Interguild was home to two different testing accounts at the time: InterBot and Intertester (now Captain Obvious). Jellsprout supposedly wanted to perform tests that specifically required the use of a non-moderator, but believed that Quirvy had taken over both testing accounts, and changed their passwords from what they were originally set at.
At this point in time, Staff Members were split up into two groups: Administrators and Moderators. Administrators had the power to change a user's password, but Moderators did not. Without the power to change the either of the testing accounts' passwords, and apparently unwilling to ask Quirvy what the password is, or for Livio or Isa to change the password, he decided to recreate the account, Dando52.
The Commandeering of Dando52
Livio was on a temporary leave of absence, and could not delete the account. Isa, despite being an administrator, did not have the power to delete accounts, and also could not dispose of it. Quirvy, bothered by the unnecessary resurrection of the account, proposed that Isa change the password to the account so that he could taunt jellsprout using it. Isa agreed to it, and it was done.
However, there was one minor problem: It was very hard for both Isa and Quirvy to have knowledge of the password at the same time, without jellsprout knowing what it was, too.
You might say, "Well, you could just send Private Messages to eachother..."
But at this time, private messages were not nearly as private as one would have thought; a hole in the reported PM's system allowed staff members to be able to view Private Messages by their ID number. All jellsprout needed to do to view a recent PM discussing the password change of his testing account, was send himself a PM through one of his later created testing accounts, report it, view the reported PM change, and lower the ID of the private message until it reached the desired message regarding the password change.
If you do not understand that last sentence, all you need to know is that jellsprout had the capability of searching through recent Private Messages in the event of Dando52's password changing, making communicating through Private Messages unsafe. And this in fact, did happen. Once Isa and Quirvy had taken control of the account, Jellsprout used this hole in the system to find out what the password was, and retake his testing account.
Despite this, Quirvy and Isa continued to communicate through private messages. Isa, realizing that the private messages were not safe, told Quirvy that he would soon make a new forum where they would be able to chat freely about the takeover.
Isa, however, knew that jellsprout would read the private message and search for this secret forum. So, to prevent him from finding it, he created a decoy forum that jellsprout would stumble upon, and falsely believe it to be the secret board. The ID of this decoy forum was 49; the ID of the secret forum was 56.
The Actual takeover of the account took place on May 31st of 2009.
Battle for Control Over the Account
Jellsprout regained control of Dando52 the day after, likely through PM spying. As a result of this, Isa chose to enact his plan to create a secret forum, and a decoy forum, on June 2nd. This was at first successful, and both canadianstickdeath and jellsprout had initially believed that they had found the secret forum, which they had heard about in the private message exchange between Isa and Quirvy. Quirvy poked fun at both canadianstickdeath and jellsprout for spying on their private messages when he sent a private message to Isa stating "Decoy PM." 3 minutes after it had been sent, canadianstickdeath posted in the decoy forum, "Lol @ decoy PM."
Although the decoy forum was initially successful, on June 4th, jellsprout and canadianstickdeath had found the true secret forum. Despite this, Quirvy and Isa maintained control of the account, as Quirvy realized that although they could view their messages, they could not view the PM subject. He and Isa used this to their advantage.
However, the drama all ended on June 7th, when Isa, annoyed by the struggle for control of Dando52, and just the entire plot in general, changed the password without informing either of the 2 what it now was.
The Interguild Takeover
Dando52(Quirvy) created topic in the announcements forum called D52 IS TAKING OVER, declaring that she was to take control of the interguild due to the absence of Livio. She made several demands:
- canadianstickdeath(referred to as "canadianstick...") was to ban Haily and Livio, and then have a fight to the death with jellsprout to decide who would become her eternal love.
- Isa was to promote Dando52 to an administrator.
- Competitions were now to be decided by who can "kiss the most bum, and hand out the most karma to me."
- canadianstickdeath was to make the chatbox a moderator exclusive feature.
- Private messages were to be constantly monitored. (this order poked fun at the hole in the reported private messages system, which allowed Moderators and Administrators to view private messages not sent to them. This order would also come true, as canadianstickdeath and jellsprout would be monitoring PM's to keep tabs on conversations going on between Isa and Quirvy)
- Every active member was to have a bunny as their avatar.
- Shos' Playground (a mod forum which not all mods had knowledge of) was to be leveled and replaced by a military base.
- Shos put on a green dress.
- Dando52 was to be addressed General Overlord, in response to a demand by the real Dando that they be addressed by the name Overlord.
- An article describing Dando52's greatness was to be written and released to the public.
- Jellsprout's Moderating powers were to be removed. (this was in response to him retaking Dando52)
Dando52's Avatar
One would think that this entire plotline would fail, as no demands would be met, and no one would play along, but Quirvy changed every active user's avatar to a bunny immediately following the takeover. A decent amount of users played along, and even Shos, who refused to cooperate with her demands, ended up contributing the the scheme, as he engaged in a multi-page argument between himself and Dando52. Dando52 gained more karma in her takeover than many users even had at that time, and in fact, gained 6 karma for her opening post.
Quirvy and jellsprout both lost access to the account on June 7th. Dando52 lost power June 8th, when Livio returned to a bunny-infested interguild, and declared that he had reclaimed total power over the interguild.
Post-Takeover
The Dando52 takeover had become rather popular among the interguild members. This combined with the fact that a moderate number of posts were made under Dando52, led to the interguild staff choosing to preserve the account. However, to prevent further shenanigans, the account was handed over to Livio, and kept out of reach from the rest of the staff, assuring no further power struggles between Quirvy, Isa and Jell would ensue. It is believed that during a period of Livio's inactivity, the true Overlord retook control of the account, although not much is known, and there is some speculation that the account no longer exists due to its absence from the members list.
Another interguild member, Thomas, began using Dando52's avatar. Dando52, angered by this, demanded that he surrender his avatar. He did not comply, and then declared that he would only do so if he lost a poll to decide who would get to keep the avatar. Dando52 agreed, and created a timed poll in the staff forum. Thomas lost 3-0, with votes for Dando52 coming from Quirvy, Dando52 and Livio.
Thomas, declared the poll invalid, and held his own poll, where he lost again, 12-7. Following this, he was forced to use an avatar which stated, "I am not worthy of this avatar."
While that was going on, Dando52 had also created a new topic, parodying Ask Sprout and Ask Catta, titled as Ask D52. If you were to ask Dando52 a question, there was a chance that she would respond to it by giving you an answer, but there was also a high chance that she would respond with "Next Question", especially if she did not know the answer or if the question attacked her greatness. It was openly a parody of an NFL agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who held a press conference where he refused to answer most of the questions asked towards him.
At the same time, Dando52 also embarked on a mission to take over the internet. She reportedly took over the Lumscat forums, an unsuccessful forum created by cedric_09_, took down the no-wii club, another unsuccessful forum made by a previous member, took over the old interguild forums, took control of IceCaves.net, and is believed to be trying to overthrow the Mexican Government at this moment, although it is unknown how this is related to taking over the internet.
User Comments (35)
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
I didn't put it here, but apparently part of the reason why jell chose "dando52" was so that when Livio did the transition of the posts from the old forums, Dando52 would receive all of Dando's old posts from the old interguild.  spooky secret | |
| canadianstickdeath | ||
Age: 35 Karma: 350 Posts: 2990 Gender: Male pm | email |
I fixed a thing with one of the links where the smilies were overriding the url censors. But... why didn't you just use HTML and avoid that problem altogether? | |
| a_neezles_a | ||
| rob garrett Age: 50 Karma: -417 Posts: 425 Gender: Female Location: costa rica pm | email |
I'm inspired...  In a bad way. rob garrett | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
The PM spying thing was the worst thing to ever happen to the Interguild. No joking. | |
| canadianstickdeath | ||
Age: 35 Karma: 350 Posts: 2990 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Isa' said: The PM spying thing was the worst thing to ever happen to the Interguild. No joking. | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
Well, the repeated abuse of it by you, Jell and Quirvy (I think), to be more specific then. I think it was more or less irresponsible of you to act like you did, and I don't know what would excuse it. | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Quirvy' said: I didn't put it here, but apparently part of the reason why jell chose "dando52" was so that when Livio did the transition of the posts from the old forums, Dando52 would receive all of Dando's old posts from the old interguild. To be specific, it was because all the videos at the time still had Dando52 as their creator. So all those videos linked to the Dando52 account. Spoiler: | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Isa' said: Well, the repeated abuse of it by you, Jell and Quirvy (I think), to be more specific then. I think it was more or less irresponsible of you to act like you did, and I don't know what would excuse it. Hey! Now don't try to play Mr. Good Guy, here! Look what I found on the decoy topic: 'canadianstickdeath' said: So how did you find out I was here? Did you see me on the permissions page? You must have read it in PM's, 'cause I can't imagine people just going around and checking that. 'Isa' said: Of course I read it in the PM's  Been checking out the ones sent less than a week ago and I keep one window[tab] dedicated to PM's. RED HANDED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think that all four of us probably abused the glitch while it lasted, regardless of how much we abused it. I didn't quite have a tab open, but when I first stumbled upon the hole in the system, I was curious as to what I would find; eventually, though, I concluded that the majority of Private Messages sent aren't even interesting enough for me to bother looking through. The only stuff I remembered was some glitch related conversation between Livio and CSD, two people talking about a cave that they were collaborating on(it was at this point that I concluded that it was a waste of time(along with being something I shouldn't have been doing, anyways), a really ignorant(understatement) message by cedric, and then I also remember trying to find the first private message in the system, which I believe was by Haily(and then I read the early conversations between Livio and Haily from the testing stages of the site). Honestly, looking through the old forums would have probably been a more productive use of my time. I think that jell did most of his glitch abusing during the Dando52 thing, but I'm not him, so I don't know for sure what he did. But I have a feeling that whenever we discovered it, he kind of stopped shortly after it, and only resumed once his account was taken over. CSD probably abused the glitch pretty often, but again, I can't say for sure, because I'm not him. But I do know that he at one point during the D52 campaign, had a tab open specifically for PM's. However, this may have been specifically to spy on me and Isa. But I still have a feeling that he abused it more than that, because he seems like the kind of guy who would abuse a glitch. Isa, you, despite probably being the strictest staff member of the interguild, too engaged in a little bit of spying, yourself. I'd probably bet that it was less than me, jell and CSD, but you still abused the feature too, so we're all equally as guilty for doing such things. While we definitely should not have been peeking through PM's, it probably wasn't as sinister as it would seem. I doubt that any of us read through all private messages. In fact, we probably read only a portion of all of the PM's. And while it shouldn't have been done, I don't think we really had any intentions at all. Any of us four who probably read private messages probably didn't do so to dig up dirt on someone or something like that. It was probably mostly in the interests of curing boredom(and trying to regain control of D52) It's also worth noting that really the only people to have ever known about this glitch, I believe, were CSD, me, Isa, Jell and Livio. And jell may have found it before I did. You can rest assured that if you sent a personal message to somebody else through PM's, we probably either didn't read it, or we don't remember it. I totally forgot about this whole thing until I was looking back at the Dando52 plot. Although there is some weird glitch that CSD found, where you can respond (and probably send it to yourself?) to a message that you didn't receive, there's no way that anyone is going to actually use it, because of how inconvenient it is. spooky secret | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
I've added a date for when I first made the account. Turns out I made within a day after the new site got released. About the PM glitch, I only used it to spy on the conversations between you and Isa. To be honest, I didn't real care for anything else. Spoiler: | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
Lol, I confess. I did that because I was very mad, I think it was because someone (Jell? CSD?) stated that it was possible to read PM's, and I knew that mine was being watched over. The only ones I read was between staff members though and most of them was about that glitch in particular. No regular members was harmed due to my actions (because of the lack of PM's sent by and to regular members). That makes it MUCH easier for me to go on with my life, because my sins were lesser than yours...  Enough of the sarcasm, though. You shouldn't have done that - I shouldn't have done that, and now we can't (except if we got loads of patience and time, with CSD's method), but I think that it is in the interest of no one to read another member's PM's. We don't have that many secrets, I think. It also striked me back then that we declared in a news post "the end of a mod-abuse era", but we didn't mention the biggest mod abuse of them all. I was really tempted to post about it when CSD replied to one of my PM's that I sent to Quirvy, but I decided not to, to avoid a smaller scandal. Oh well. | |
| Yaya | ||
Age: 29 Karma: 747 Posts: 5367 Location: Ohio (US) pm | email |
I honestly don't mind that you read my PM's because I rarely get any in the 1st place.  COMING SOON: A giant meteor. Please. Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Isa' said: No regular members was harmed due to my actions (because of the lack of PM's sent by and to regular members). That makes it MUCH easier for me to go on with my life, because my sins were lesser than yours... No regular members were harmed due to any of our actions. If someone was harmed by it, then the public would have probably known about it before just now. You can't take action based on a private message that you read, because in doing so, you would have to admit that you read a private message that you were not supposed to have read, which would make you probably even more guilty than the person that you would be taking action against. So, really, with our power to read PM's, nothing affected members outside of the 5 staff members that knew about it. Which is why I think that we 4 mainly did concentrate on each other + livio I'm pretty sure that this whole glitch was discovered in the midst of me and CSD searching for glitches on the site, which we would then expose. And it is easy for me to move on with my life, because I was the one to bring this to light, and I don't think that I've denied anything. I have more important things to worry about, other than something I did last summer on the internet that has only led to us being a little ashamed of doing something so irresponsible. spooky secret | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
'Isa' said: That makes it MUCH easier for me to go on with my life, because my sins were lesser than yours... Enough of the sarcasm, though. | |
| shos | ||
| ~Jack of all trades~ Age: 31 Karma: 389 Posts: 8273 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email |
*Sigh* instead of making posts like these, how bout make a real guide, or edit any of the 3 pending ones?  | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
Lol. Why are you complaining just because Quirvy does this completely unannounced? There's one guide for you to edit that you haven't made, shos, so if you want to see more guides here then you know what to do. | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
'shos' said: *Sigh* instead of making posts like these, how bout make a real guide, or edit any of the 3 pending ones? *Sigh* instead of making posts like these, about how no "real" guides are being made, how bout make a real guide, or edit any of the 3 pending ones? (just because you submitted it, doesn't mean that you can't be the one to edit and release it) spooky secret | |
| shos | ||
| ~Jack of all trades~ Age: 31 Karma: 389 Posts: 8273 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email |
don't have much time to do that; i still have a bunch of stuff to do, and more, from the list i gave you back then. and the deadline is this friday! so i'm pretty stupid even being here, see, it's 1:15 am, i ahve 18 pages of lab reports to make, and two big tests to study for for this friday - in civics(Ahh! help! i suck here) and physics... | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
And you still complain about Quirvy doing things? | |
| Livio | ||
Age: 31 Karma: 470 Posts: 9620 Gender: Male Location: Arizona, USA pm | email |
lol I just read through this article and it was awesome.  I wasn't aware of the struggle to gain control of the D52 account while I was gone.I don't really have anything to say about the PM abuse other than this: It's all Haily's fault. He made the PM system. | |
| shos | ||
| ~Jack of all trades~ Age: 31 Karma: 389 Posts: 8273 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email |
im not complaining about q doing stuff - i support him doing them - but i really think that if you guys(me included) have time to spare to do stuff like that, we hsould probably focus on getting our guides done. we have an amazingly long list of articles to do. for example, im sure quirvy is the best person to write an article about the zero g and almost zero g - he knows more about this than probably anyone, even csd - having made the zero g eries | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
'shos' said: for example, im sure quirvy is the best person to write an article about the zero g and almost zero g - he knows more about this than probably anyone, even csd - having made the zero g eries ...Which is exactly why I made an article for it... ...Last summer... spooky secret | |
| Yaya | ||
Age: 29 Karma: 747 Posts: 5367 Location: Ohio (US) pm | email |
Lol, Quirvy. That page looks extremely broken to me. (Gets cut off and smilies appear in black box with no place to post) COMING SOON: A giant meteor. Please. Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | |
| canadianstickdeath | ||
Age: 35 Karma: 350 Posts: 2990 Gender: Male pm | email |
"Although there is some weird glitch that CSD found, where you can respond (and probably send it to yourself?) to a message that you didn't receive, there's no way that anyone is going to actually use it, because of how inconvenient it is." You can't send messages to yourself, so you have to send them to another account. I suggest Interbot? Any member can do this, by the way, not just Mods like with the reported PM's, so in a way, it's worse. Perhaps I should tell everybody this, lol. | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Livio' said: I don't really have anything to say about the PM abuse other than this: It's all Haily's fault. He made the PM system. So it still works on IceCaves? Spoiler: | |
| shos | ||
| ~Jack of all trades~ Age: 31 Karma: 389 Posts: 8273 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email |
but we still need a near zero G guide: http://interguild.org/articles/?id=49 | |
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