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LEAVING ALL OF THIS UP FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSE, BUT REALLY YOU CAN IGNORE ALL OF THIS AND JUST USE FLASHPOINT TO PLAY HATPC. SEE THIS POST IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS


Once again, I'm rewriting an existing guide. Or rather, instead of making a "How to open" guide, I'm making one solely focused on the problems you can face when trying to play Hannah and the Pirate Caves (HATPC). I designed this guide like a flowchart to make it easier and faster to work through.

STEP ONE: Try Again

Just open and close the game window until it finally works. If it still doesn't work after about three tries, move on to the next step.

STEP TWO: DGS Error?

If you get a DGS Error, it is most likely the fault of neopets.com. Although, this theory has never been proven. Wait a few hours or a day, and if you still get the error, move on to step three.

STEP THREE: Which browser are you using?

HATPC is a very old Shockwave game, so it does not work properly in all browsers anymore. We find that HATPC works best in Google Chrome (download: here) and Apple's Safari (download: here). Many users on this site prefer to use Chrome for HATPC. EDIT: Chrome has betrayed us. Use Safari.

If you are currently using a different browser, that may be the reason why you cannot play HATPC. Download either Chrome or Safari, then try opening HATPC from one of those browsers by clicking here. If you still can't play, move on to step four.

Side note: If you do not want to change the browser that you normally use, you may be interested in some added convenience in another of my guides, which teaches you how to create a desktop shortcut that will open HATPC from any browser.

STEP FOUR: Do you have the latest version of Shockwave Player?

http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/
Visit the above link and download the latest version of shockwave. Beware of any offers to download a free toolbar or security scan. I suspect them to be safe, since they are from Adobe, but they are an annoyance.

Try opening HATPC again, by clicking here. If still nothing, go to step five.

STEP FIVE: Try visiting the game files directly

Click here: http://swf.neopets.com/games/g349_v9_99392.dcr

This is known to work in every browser except Internet Explorer  9.

If it still doesn't work, see the next step.

STEP SIX: Try clearing your browser's cache

Your browser saves a cache for many web pages in its attempt to cut back on loading times. Some of our users have found that clearing their cache enables them to play HATPC again.

To clear your cache in Chrome, click on the wrench icon at the top-right corner of the screen. Then click on "Options". An Options window will open up. Click on the tab called "Under the Hood". Right under the "Privacy" heading, click on the button that says "Clear Browsing Data...". Another window will open. In this window, uncheck everything except for "Empty the cache". Under "Clear data from this period:", select "Everything". And finally, click the button "Clear browsing data".

To clear your cache in Safari, click on the gear icon at the top-right corner of the screen, and click on "Reset Safari...". A window will open. uncheck everything except for "Empty the cache". Then hit the "Reset" button.

Try opening HATPC here.

If it still doesn't work, you can also try deleting all other forms of browsing data, and this usually works for most people.

Finally, if it still doesn't work, try clearing it again! Surprisingly this does make a difference quite often.

If even that doesn't work, move onto the next step.

STEP SEVEN: Maybe it's not your fault

There have been times in the past when HATPC wouldn't work for anyone because something would go wrong with neopets.com's game servers. This is similar to the DGS Error problem in Step Two, but neopets is clever, always finding better ways of screwing up HATPC. While in the past, the game used to go down occasionally, it seems very rare these days. However, the possibility is still there. To make sure if something is only happening to you, try asking other Interguild members if they are having any difficulties opening HATPC. If they are having the same problems as you, then it's possible that something's temporarily gone wrong with the game.

STEP EIGHT: Try downloading someone else's cache

We've now moved on to a daring step. We will now attempt to get HATPC to work for you by downloading almost 290 MB 755 KB of my own cache so that HATPC will always work for you. However, this cache is for Google Chrome only, so if you do not have it, download it here. However, Chrome must be closed while you follow these steps.

This method was developed when I noticed that there was something in my cache that allowed HATPC to work for me, and when the cache was cleared, it no longer worked. Luckily, I saved a backup of my cache, and I tried to find out what file was in there that was allowing HATPC to work. However, because I did not know what I was doing, removing things from the cache made it very unstable, as Chrome would sense errors and automatically change things to fix them. Therefore, I was not able to reduce the file size of the overall cache that you must download.  However, so far this method has managed to fix HATPC for two people: jellsprout and Yaya.

Also, I am sorry I cannot provide any support for non-Windows users.

Here are the steps to successfully replace your cache with mine:
  1. If on Windows Vista or Windows 7, go to:
    C:Users[USERNAME]AppDataLocalGoogleChromeUser DataDefault

    If on Windows XP, go to:
    Cocuments and Settings[USERNAME]Local SettingsApplication DataGoogleChromeUser DataDefault

    The [USERNAME] represents the name of the user that you are currently logged into on your computer. There will be a folder named after that user name.

    If you are having trouble finding some of these folder, it may be because they are hidden. Click on the Start menu at the very bottom-left corner of the screen and type in "folder options" into the search. Click on the "Folder Options" program that comes up. Click on the "View" tab, then look under the group of options under "Hidden files and folder" and select the option to "Show hidden files and folders". Now try again to find the above folder locations.

  2. Delete the following folders entirely:
    Cache
    Media Cache
    (if you don't want to lose your caches, for whatever reason, you may want to just rename those folders in case you want to keep a backup).

  3. Open this: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0By4BC80t6oOoNzQ5YjZhNzctNWY1NS00M2ZmLWEzNWYtNjk3NGI2Njk3YjY4&hl=en&authkey=CN3A8PAK

  4. Take the two folders inside that zip file and extract them to your "Default" folder, mentioned in the first step. Make sure that the Cache and Media Cache folders within the zip file are placed directly into the Default folder. You do not want them to be inside a new folder (which may be automatically called "ChromeHATPCcache").
Now that you have successfully replaced your cache, try to play HATPC here. If you have any problems with this complicated step, please ask for help in the comments below.

If this doesn't work, try going through this step again, but instead use this cache: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0By4BC80t6oOoNzlkNGIzMjktMWUwZC00YTgyLWJiOTUtNjk5YzMyMjAxYTZh&hl=en
Be aware that this file is nearly 290 MB.

STEP NINE: Ask for help

If you still can't get HATPC to work, just post a comment below. Try explaining in detail what happens when you try to load the game, and I or some other members will try to figure out what's wrong.
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Harumbai
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Monday, November 29 2010, 12:46 am EST
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My HatPC isn't working; as soon as the loading text appears I get a shockwave error, any ideas?


Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you...
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I get it quite often, and my solution is to just reopen it until it works, which usually takes about one or two tries. If that doesn't cut it for you, then clear your cache would be my best bet.
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Sounds like cache problems.


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Delete your cache. That works for me.


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You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
Beccurz
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I'm thoroughly confused. I've been looking for some kind of fix, but I don't know how to download your file. It tells me to sign into Google docs through something @Interguild.org. I thought it was my user info, but was I wrong?
Harumbai
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'Isa' said:
If that doesn't cut it for you, then clear your cache would be my best bet.

'jellsprout' said:
Sounds like cache problems.

'soccerboy13542' said:
Delete your cache. That works for me.

I cleared my Cache and there was no difference other than losing all my frequently visited pages. I'm thinking of downloading Livio's cache, but I might try re-installing shockwave first.


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'Beccurz' said:
I'm thoroughly confused. I've been looking for some kind of fix, but I don't know how to download your file. It tells me to sign into Google docs through something @Interguild.org. I thought it was my user info, but was I wrong?


Beccurz, I hope you've done the previous steps on the list, because downloading Livio's cache should be your last step. If you have, then I honestly don't know how to access that file. You should send a PM to Livio, who is the creator of this site and also the one who uploaded his cache to Google Docs. Hopefully he'll have an answer.

I'd also like to welcome you to our site
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Clearing your cache won't help. The problem is that a cache file is missing. I suggest downloading Livio's cache.


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Isa
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The new problem lies in actually downloading that cache, as anyone who has tried to since the move to Google Docs has experienced.
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It feels to me like it's expecting us to be Livio.
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'canadianstickdeath' said:
It'll keep working as long as you have it in your cache. It's possible that it was somehow automatically deleted after a period of disuse?
yeah, I think that's what happens. I recently had to reinstall my own cache a few days ago.

'Beccurz' said:
I'm thoroughly confused. I've been looking for some kind of fix, but I don't know how to download your file. It tells me to sign into Google docs through something @Interguild.org. I thought it was my user info, but was I wrong?
this is weird because it's currently set not to require sign-in. I guess I had the wrong link. I re-copy-pasted it and it should work now.

I've also added a few more steps at the beginning of the list.
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Nice, the cache is now available.
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"If you still can't play, move on to step two."
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lol infinite loop
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On step four, you're advised to go to step three
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ha, fixed it before you posted.
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Hoorah! Thanks Jell and Livio!

And others for trying to help...


Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you...
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*screams*

Okay, about six months ago I went to several different computers using several different browsers in an attempt to get this game to work. After messaging TNT several times, I gave up. Then I tried again recently and happened upon this site.

No, FireFox doesn't work. No, Chrome doesn't work. Yes, my Shockwave is upgraded. Yes, I deleted my cache. For the longest time, I simply got a gray screen and the word "Done" in the bottom left corner. I downloaded the cache and I was so excited because it looked like it would work but NO, I just got this message:

"This Shockwave movie has errors that have caused playback problems. Please contact the author of this content regarding this problem. Shockwave is unable to continue."

I'm ready to hunt down TNT and force them to fix this stupid game at gunpoint.

Okay, no, but seriously. I really like this game. Help?
Livio
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Wait, but did you try using Safari?

Maybe try Step One again after downloading the cache.

Or try restarting your computer, like what Yaya does.

Otherwise, I have no idea what else you can do.
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'Psychobabble' said:
For the longest time, I simply got a gray screen and the word "Done" in the bottom left corner.


Never heard of this error previously, which is interesting.

But unfortunately, pretty much what Livio said. Using different browsers (IE, Chrome, Safari all work - Firefox can't load usermade levels which means we're not using it, we can't do anything about that), restarting your browser/computer, try multiple times (this is important, I usually have to open HatPC once or twice, sometimes up to five times before it loads properly without a Shockwave Error) and make sure that everything is upgraded to the latest version released.

Don't count on TNT to help you, they've neglected HatPC for two years straight, if not more.

If none of the advice suggested to you here works, be sure to tell us, and we'll try to find alternate solutions.
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"For the longest time, I simply got a gray screen and the word "Done" in the bottom left corner."
This is what I get when I try to load HATPC in Firefox, most of the time. The game doesn't even bring up the loading screen. I haven't seen it work in FF a LONG time (possibly only in older versions?), but if it ever does, it won't be able to load user-levels.

"This Shockwave movie has errors that have caused playback problems. Please contact the author of this content regarding this problem. Shockwave is unable to continue."
This is what you typically get in every other browser when you try to load HATPC. Pasting in somebody else's cache usually fixes the problem (this is obviously chrome and windows only). I'd like somebody to check that that cache still works with the most recent version of chrome (does chrome even have more recent versions?). If the whole cache-replace thing really doesn't work, and your shockwave is really up to date, and you're really using chrome or safari (or in my case, an older version of IE) then the most I can say is to keep trying to load it, clearing your cache after every attempt, and maybe waiting a day or two after a few unsuccessful tries. It's just really, really random, but once you have it in your cache it should stay there until cleared (which can happen after a long period of disuse).

"I'm ready to hunt down TNT and force them to fix this stupid game at gunpoint."
They wouldn't fix it if they could, sure, but most of this is just because shockwave is really old. It's a shame. If you've played the more recent "Hannah and the Kreludor Caves", which was made in flash, you can really see how the change from shockwave to flash hurt the game -- like, when the computer lags while you release a key, the game won't notice, and it'll get stuck down until you press and release it again.
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Actually, TNT does acknowledge this problem. A few months they posted a topic here, telling that they were trying to fix the glitch. They haven't exactly been successful, as you can see. It is a shame I can't post there, or I would have shared what we know. Once they realize the problems come from missing cache files, they should be able to fix it pretty fast.


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I can't play hatpc. when I open it, from interguild or neopets, it doesn't work. I have tried all the different steps, but none work. On internet explorer, it worked, but when is says 'press jump to start' it doesn't respond. Help!


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Are there any other error messages you get when loading the game?


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FYI, if it doesn't work from Interguild, it won't work from Neopets either.

Can you load regular levels?

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