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Author: Yaya
Game: Hannah and the Pirate Caves
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 8:11 pm

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Interesting cave, Imo. I'd say it's about 90% speed traps etc. and 10% puzzle. Involves backtracking torwards the middle and end. Originally, this cave was going to be different (more hard probably), but then I read this conversation between Jebby, Krotomo and Midnight on the "Hatpc Hardcore" topic, which turned into a conversation between Jebby and Midnight in the chatbox (they're both really good conversations and debates. You should read the topic and posts in the chatbox, if they haven't pruned yet).

Anyways, their conversation motivated me to make my cave somewhat more enjoyable and I think it turned out better that way, but according to the public response (except Shos) the cave is still too hard to be enjoyable, I don't nessecarily agree with the public, but more people don't like it then like it.

Reflecting on this decison for the past few monthes, I've decided to just screw the public and put this in the favorites category. You guys may not like it, but when the world ends I'll let Shos into my bomb shelter because of his appreciation.

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Dimensions: 41x79 — Treasures: 18 — Water: clear


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jebby
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Sunday, August 9 2009, 8:20 pm EST
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jellsprout said:
I personally feel difficult caves are currently underrated. Tell me yourself Jebs, are you better known for Bribe and Massacre or for Mastermind? I feel that in the long run, it are the impossibly difficult caves that get remembered best.


Difficult caves tend to be exhibitions of the limitations of the cavemaker as well as the creative scope that it provides. They're also near enough unplayable and have a kind of 'look, but don't touch' feel to them. There is a great deal of skill put into them, but no consideration for the player and to me that is a weakness. All-rounders like (I'm going to be using this example a lot, I'm afraid!) You Want The Candy are probably going to get the most attention in the short-term if you want lots of ratings and feedback. But the masterpiece designs that no-one can play tend to have a silent reputation that hangs around for a long time.
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I still think overly difficult caves are overrated. In fact, I don't think they should be rated at all, because I think they're more like novelty caves than actual levels. It's my experience that making a massive, extremely difficult level does not require as much skill as is made out to be. Not nearly as much. And I think that the most difficult caves being the ones best remembered is a flaw on our part.

I'd say the true skill when it comes to making levels is balancing the level of challenge and difficulty whilst maintaining an entertaining cave and interesting design. Timing traps is definitely not an amazing feat in my opinion. In fact, I'd say timing traps to accommodate the player takes far more skill than timing traps to "perfection".

/wileywoo

Anyway, I tried this level earlier and also couldn't get anywhere. Now that you changed it, though, I'll try it again.
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The first trap wasn't too bad. After I noticed I was doing it wrong, it took about three tries, and none of the deaths were because I was too slow. How fast did it used to be, lol, because the trap was only an arrow or two behind me?

The next trap is fast too, but it's manageable, I guess. I'd slow the next trap down just a bit, because I'd like a little more time to set up a jump up to the treasure. If I don't come to a full-stop before jumping, I always die.

I played for a few minutes or so, and then there was a puzzle, and I'm not really in a puzzling mood.
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Monday, August 10 2009, 8:04 am EST
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i'll try to make a walkthrough for this cave. but i'm not promising anything - i'm not going to try more than an hour.


Yaya
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Monday, August 10 2009, 8:35 am EST

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I'm trying to make wt also. It's very difficult.



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Monday, August 10 2009, 8:49 am EST
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not really; the first trap is now WAAAAAAAY behind hannah. the metal gets destroyed when i'm almost inside the secret area after hitting the dynamite.

i have it all recorded till the water area, when my keyboard !#@[email protected]$% broke and the space won't hit, so i just died a meaningless death.


Yaya
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Monday, August 10 2009, 8:55 am EST

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Lol, you got owned. I'm having some troubles with the hypercam at the moment, so I really doubt I'll be doing anything soon. And by water area, do you mean the gem area or the speed trap/Yaya logo?



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Monday, August 10 2009, 9:17 am EST
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well uh, i got owned once again, this time i jumped with no reason into a spike. although i really don't remember what i was supposed to do next from there anyways XD

i died right after the water area. hte first one, not the yaya logo.


shos
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Monday, August 10 2009, 11:32 am EST
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AARGH!
I have it ALL recorded until the END of the yaya :X you won't believe how i died! i was too quickly to swim around the spikes - and i broke the crate! and it almost landed already! NOOOO!!!!

the file is more than 0.5GB and 7.25 minutes.


Yaya
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Monday, August 10 2009, 11:41 am EST

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Lol, owned once again. I hope you realize how nice you are enduring all this pain to make a try and make a walkthrough for me.



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Monday, August 10 2009, 11:45 am EST
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I never lost on the first trap but I lost on the second
shos
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Monday, August 10 2009, 12:07 pm EST
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well you're lucky i have some time today. i have had another try; 8.5 minutes. 790 MB. guess where i died.

at the right? where there are three boulders and two golds? well, after climbing the platform(after taking the gold) i jumped into the spike nearby. so. meaningless.


Yaya
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Monday, August 10 2009, 12:14 pm EST

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Your getting really close. It gets slightly easier then the rest of the cave after that trap.



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Monday, August 10 2009, 12:45 pm EST
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I can't get past the fourth room
shos
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Monday, August 10 2009, 12:58 pm EST
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krotomo said:
I can't get past the fourth room
room? i didn't quite realize there are 'rooms' in this cave.


krotomo
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Monday, August 10 2009, 1:20 pm EST
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Well there are
Yaya
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I kinda consider the 1st trap and the dynamite crate one room and the rest of the cave is sorta a blob until you hit the room with boulders which leads to another blob.



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I'm satisfied to declare that the cave is impossible

no way to get to the door.


shos
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this needs to be removed, and then cave would be possible.


Yaya
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I think I fixed it. There was a spike in the shaft you were supposed to fall down? If that's the problem, it's fixed.

Edit: Crap, you posted on top of me.



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Oh, shos. Talking about how good a cave is, and how it isn't too hard, and then you later find it that it is impossible...

By default, if it took that long for shos to realize that this cave was impossible, the cave is too hard. It should take shos maybe a max of like 5-10 tries for a cave to be considered fun, IMO. But that's just my opinion.



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Yaya
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Well the impossible part was at the very end of the cave, but I'm suprised somebody didn't notice it earlier, (I should have). Also I'm moving this into the "Too Hard" series. I think I may have been possesed in the same way when you were making MIX, Quirvy.



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No, definitely not. The water part of MIX was on a whole new level of evil.

You gotta try to make your caves more easily beatable. Or at least until Aeon and the checkpoint system comes along.



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Yaya
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Monday, August 10 2009, 3:29 pm EST

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Quirvy said:

You gotta try to make your caves more easily beatable.


That's exactly what I'm doing with the cave I'm working on now. (I have a lot of ideas for some reason)



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Monday, August 10 2009, 4:09 pm EST
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Yaya said:
I think I fixed it. There was a spike in the shaft you were supposed to fall down? If that's the problem, it's fixed.
doesn't matter already, I have the video recorded fully with the spike and i'm not going to make another.



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