Author: Onarole Game: Hannah and the Pirate Caves Date: Friday, October 3, 2008 - 12:00 am
Description: Winner of PCCA comp 22 and PCCA's featured cave, I present to you Swamp! It's named after Tool's song Swamp Song. User Rating: (Log in to rate)6.8 out of 10 Average 6 votes | Difficulty Rating: (Log in to rate) |
Dimensions: 44x64 — Treasures: 3 — Water: clear |
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User Comments (25) | | Livio |
Age: 20 Karma: 402 Posts: 9458 Gender: Male Location: Arizona, USA pm | email
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7.5/10 Good awesome level. | | | Yaya |
Serial Experiments Yaya
Age: 18 Karma: 545 Posts: 4301 Gender: Male Location: Ohio (US) pm | email
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9.5/10 Amazing! Good cave, I don't beleive any cave out there does truly deserve a 10, though.
EDIT: Yes, my rate is quite high, but I won't lower it due to it mesing up the average.


Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | | jazz |
666
Age: 17 Karma: 78 Posts: 2717 Location: 666 pm | email
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8/10 Great Great cave. Good layout, good traps, and good placement of gem.
This is not a fail. It is not a not a fail.EPIC FAIL

Anyways, I was wondering. How many characters is 400? | | | canadianstickdeath |
Age: 24 Karma: 313 Posts: 2828 Gender: Male pm | email
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| | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
Age: 20 Karma: 618 Posts: 7249 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email
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Apparently, there's two water taps competitions. | | | GF4 |
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6/10 Average This was reasonably enjoyable except for the second water part with the close spikes.
I don't think it was any better than an 8, though.
Check my description for my accounts. | | | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
Age: 20 Karma: 294 Posts: 7345 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email
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woah, what's up with these high rates?  judging by the look of the cave, it seems quite simple, perhaps one or two good traps that caught my eye...don't see how this deserves such high rating. someone should upload this for me..
| | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
Age: 20 Karma: 618 Posts: 7249 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email
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It is a fun level and that's good enough for me. I'm a big fan of Ona's caving style. | | | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
Age: 20 Karma: 294 Posts: 7345 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email
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but it isn't uploaded anywhere :X  and I want to keep Oscillations up on shovalhehe...
| | | soccerboy13542 |
~*~Soccer~*~
Age: 15 Karma: 317 Posts: 3153 Gender: Male Location: 1945 pm | email
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shos, for now this'll be uploaded on my account. | | | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
Age: 20 Karma: 294 Posts: 7345 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email
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okay well, Shos' Confusion Count+1.
I beat the cave in 1 try, very quickly, discovered that it's a tad cheatable. overall, this cave had uh, 2 traps and one small easy puzzle? sorry to disappoint here, but i really can't see ANY reason for a 9, a 9.5 and definitely not 10. I'd give it a 5.
am i missing something? I assumed the gem and heart aren't really supposed to be taken...am i wrong?
| | | GF4 |
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Karma: 115 Posts: 846 Gender: Male pm | email
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shos said: okay well, Shos' Confusion Count+1.
I beat the cave in 1 try, very quickly, discovered that it's a tad cheatable. overall, this cave had uh, 2 traps and one small easy puzzle? sorry to disappoint here, but i really can't see ANY reason for a 9, a 9.5 and definitely not 10. I'd give it a 5.
am i missing something? I assumed the gem and heart aren't really supposed to be taken...am i wrong?
Honestly I agree. But I didn't want to look like the bad guy.
Check my description for my accounts. | | | Quirvy |
Karma: 538 Posts: 7051 Gender: Male pm | email
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The reason why it has such a high rating is because of it's player friendly-ness. 9.5 is probably too high, though, due to it's very small size, but from what I recall, this level does have the right idea in terms of what traps should be like, but its been a long time since I've played it.
| | | GF4 |
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Karma: 115 Posts: 846 Gender: Male pm | email
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Quirvy said: The reason why it has such a high rating is because of it's player friendly-ness. 9.5 is probably too high, though, due to it's very small size, but from what I recall, this level does have the right idea in terms of what traps should be like, but its been a long time since I've played it.
And all these other caves of the same size don't?
When I played it yesterday I didn't find much of a difference from it and about EVERY other level. There's absolutely nothing unique about it. It doesn't deserve these high rates in my opinion.
EDIT: Yeah I'll change my rate since I got de-karmaed anyway.
Check my description for my accounts. | | | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
Age: 20 Karma: 294 Posts: 7345 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email
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4.9/10 Meh GF, you really shouldn't be afraid of being the bad guy. we can't have a community with levels that are rated supremely because people want to be nice to others.. giving a low rating is not at all bad, if you specify why.
in my opinion, this level is at a cotw level, which is very bad. the timing of the traps is way behind, the puzzle is very easy, it's just an adventure cave - just like one of the main levels of the game... the only way I can think about that can really kill you is if you push the boulder to the right, blocking the secret area to the gold, before taking it. and why would you push that boulder anyway...
the water tap crate area can also be reached simply by jumping there, too... nope, no reason for this level to get anything more than 5.
| | | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
Age: 20 Karma: 294 Posts: 7345 Gender: Male Location: Israel pm | email
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btw, taking a look at the other entries of that comp. i have no idea why this won =\ both are better..
| | | GF4 |
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shos said: GF, you really shouldn't be afraid of being the bad guy. we can't have a community with levels that are rated supremely because people want to be nice to others.. giving a low rating is not at all bad, if you specify why.
Usually the bad guy is de-karmaed :/
Check my description for my accounts. | | | krotomo |
Wait- What?
Age: 12 Karma: 127 Posts: 3109 Gender: Male Location: My chair pm | email
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well it certainly shouldn't be that way. people should be allowed to rate levels by their honest opinion, high or low. just because someone doesn't agree with someone else doesn't mean they should be negatively rated. everyone has their own opinions. people giving opinions on levels also helps us improve our level design.
| | | FlashMarsh |
smile like a mazda
Age: 14 Karma: 84 Posts: 2316 Gender: Male Location: UK pm | email
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5/10 Mediocre Lol, I was too afraid to slam it with this terrible rating too. FOr the same reasons as shos. | | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
Age: 20 Karma: 618 Posts: 7249 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email
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Side note: There were more than three entrants, but when we moved here from the old Interguild, only the top three levels were kept. Ask Livio why. | | | Livio |
Age: 20 Karma: 402 Posts: 9458 Gender: Male Location: Arizona, USA pm | email
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mainly because for the first 10 or so comps all that was ever recorded was the top three, and I guess I kept it like that for the ones we held on the forums just to maintain consistency. Plus I had to add all entrants manually so i wasn't very motivated to add them all for 20-30 comps. | | | Livio |
Age: 20 Karma: 402 Posts: 9458 Gender: Male Location: Arizona, USA pm | email
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I lowered my rate by two hole points.... | | | krotomo |
Wait- What?
Age: 12 Karma: 127 Posts: 3109 Gender: Male Location: My chair pm | email
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By my type of cave I mean the type of cave I enjoy. I like caves that are more straightfoward and less puzzly, not what this cave is. Even though I did not enjoy it, though, I could see the amount of effort put into this level so
I rated it atleast around an 8.
| | | Yaya |
Serial Experiments Yaya
Age: 18 Karma: 545 Posts: 4301 Gender: Male Location: Ohio (US) pm | email
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I had a nice legit explanation to why I rated it so high, but IE went non-responsive and I lost that, so my best reason is back then, I rated levels differently; I was a slightly worse Hatpc player, and sometimes I just rated a level high if I saw other people were rating it high. But I wish not to change my rating due to it'll bring down the average rate even more.


Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | | krotomo |
Wait- What?
Age: 12 Karma: 127 Posts: 3109 Gender: Male Location: My chair pm | email
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lol I posted in the wrong topic, I meant to post in Sword Play
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